Wednesday 2 November 2011

It seems God is limited by our prayer life - that he can do nothing for humanity unless someone asks him - John Wesley

Kenneth Hagin - not John Wesley.
I know, I know, snappy title for a blog entry...
But anyone know where this quote comes from?  Is it even Wesley?  I see it attributed to him all over the place but cannot find a reference for it.  Most of the references I have found on the internet are from people like Kenneth Hagin, Creslo Dollar, and others, who, frankly, are the kind of word of faith / prosperity teachers that make extremely cross. 

Thing is, I don't think the sentiment of the quote is true.  I'm all for spurring people to pray but God can't do anything unless we ask him to?!  I find that hard to accept if God is all sovereign and all powerful. 

Hence I want to find out if anyone knows where the quote is from as I think I would like to see it in context.  It's a long shot... but you never know.
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  1. Kevin3 November 2011 at 16:47

    Hi Steve

    Apparently Hagin is quoting from a book, The Two Kinds of Faith, written by E.W. Kenyon. Whether Kenyon is quoting Wesley or Hagin has misatributed the quote I don't know, but I imagine most of the quotes on the internet can probably be traced back to Hagin's use of the quote.

    Kevin

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  2. Steve18 November 2011 at 14:42

    Thanks Kevin. This is exactly the problem that I am finding. And frankly I trust Wesley as a guide a lot more than I do Kenyon and Hagin

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  3. Andrew2 December 2011 at 14:17

    I haven't found it in Wesley's journal, sermons or Bible notes, at least not in that form.

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  4. Steve9 December 2011 at 23:19

    Thanks Andrew

    Have you found anything like it?

    Steve

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  8. Unknown27 July 2016 at 15:00

    Just appears to me that you're being a little critical of brother Hagin! Through his ministry that is still going strong today millions of people worldwide have been touched changed and transformed by the Gospel of Jesus Christ! I am one of them! Rev. Dr. Matthew T. Mangan

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  9. Unknown27 July 2016 at 15:00

    Just appears to me that you're being a little critical of brother Hagin! Through his ministry that is still going strong today millions of people worldwide have been touched changed and transformed by the Gospel of Jesus Christ! I am one of them! Rev. Dr. Matthew T. Mangan

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  10. Unknown27 July 2016 at 15:00

    Just appears to me that you're being a little critical of brother Hagin! Through his ministry that is still going strong today millions of people worldwide have been touched changed and transformed by the Gospel of Jesus Christ! I am one of them! Rev. Dr. Matthew T. Mangan

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  11. Anonymous25 June 2018 at 04:33

    Read the art of prayer by Kenneth Hagin,you'll see it. He attributed to John Wesley.

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  12. Unknown21 August 2020 at 00:35

    this is a quote from Smith Wigglesworth

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  13. Anonymous2 June 2022 at 01:03

    Here’s a good quote: “Why is it that ministers who produce nothing in their ministry, who cannot facilitate the Spirit of God to provide healing, who cannot demonstrate the Spirit and power of God, are always the ones most critical of the ones that actually did?”
    Smith Wigglesworth, Kenneth E Hagin, Creflo Dollar, EW Kenyon are in a league of their own.

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